You’re just two tents

There’s an old joke about a guy who goes to see a psychiatrist and he’s complaining about the wild nightmares he’s having. “One night I dreamt I was a teepee!” He said. “The next night I dreamt I was a wigwam! What’s wrong with me doc?” The Dr. paused for a moment, and then said “Well, it sounds like maybe you’re just too tense.”

Thanks folks, I’m here all night!

Anyway, we’re planning a new trip for this year where we’ll be camping our way around and we need to get a new tent. The place we’re going is likely to be remote and windy, and the tent we used last time probably isn’t up to it, and in any case the fam is not a fan.

So I’ve been looking at the Springbar tents, mainly the Skyliner because it is the largest, has a nice layout, and is ready for a stove.

The Skyliner has the most space, and we could use a stove.
The Skyliner has the most space, and we could use a stove.

But my minimalist side wants a Traveler because it will be much less expensive, lighter, smaller, and more proven.

The Traveler might be a better fit
The Traveler might be a better fit

The roof on the Skyliner is a new design, and there are quite a few reports about water pooling due to ripples forming in the roof. It sounds like it’s a combination of an early design flaw using a pole that put too much tension on the roof, and more care needing to be taken with pitching the tent. I’m wary of that. Most people do not really rely on their tents – they go out to a campground and if it doesn’t work out they bail. There will be no bailing from this trip.

I’m looking at canvas because it is quiet. It doesn’t make as much noise as synthetics. Yes, it’s heavier, and more bulky. It also doesn’t require a fly or lots of guy lines. Plenty of evidence they can withstand strong wind. We toured their factory on our last trip, and I left certain I would own one someday.

Still, I’m tempted by the likes of the Snowpeak Land Lock or similar.

The Land Lock has a huge vestibule
The Land Lock has a huge vestibule

Huge – tons of vestibule space. But it’s synthetic, with lots of poles, and not simple to erect. No doubt it is strong enough. It’s about the same price as the Skyliner. It’s hard to tell because Snowpeak doesn’t put very much info on their site, and what’s there isn’t clear. They often casually mention that an inner tent is required…that might be hundreds more.

I haven’t made up my mind yet, because I’m not buying until we’re certain we’re going.

The Traveler is the best fit for the trip’s use case: Staying two nights max, so not really making home, just a crash pad. Least amount of stakes (screws, really) and no guy lines. Very proven design. And not too big for the 2-3 people we’re looking at for the future.

The Skyliner is more space, weight, bulk, stakes, and risk. But the extra floor space would be welcome if we end up stuck in the tent, and for future trips where we might stay somewhere for several days. But it’s overkill for a future of trips for 2-3 people, because we just don’t need that much space.

The Snowpeak is the biggest covered floor plan 20 feet by 13 feet, and they have a great reputation & cult following. The Springbars don’t have any kind of vestibule. The tent we took on our last trip didn’t either, and we didn’t miss it much.

Space, however, comes at another cost. Not all campgrounds have the space. One we stayed at in Moab wouldn’t have fit any of these tents.

The last choice is just take the tent we have. The manufacturer did send us a new fly, and I could re-attach the ground loops properly, and get some valium for the kids to take if there’s wind.

Camping at Cape Lookout – South Core Banks

(I actually took this trip back in July of 2017, and originally posted some of the below on the expedition portal forums.)

Secluded. Windy. Sandy. Oceany. Cape Lookout has everything you love and hate about the beach, to the nines. Except crowds & lifeguards. There are three major islands – the North Core, South Core, and Shackleford banks. We stayed on the South Core banks.

Looking at camp from the north, upwind
Looking at camp from the north, upwind

Like kites? Lots of wind, and plenty of space, and no one in the way.

Fish? I don’t fish much, but I was tempted to get a rod and license and give it a try. Judging by the rod covered vehicles driving by every morning, the fishing is good.

Shelling? Quite good along the southern tip. Not so great, but not bad, where we were camped.

Sitting around emptying beverage cans while doing nothing except watching the kids, the birds, and the waves? Perfection.

Getting pummeled by huge waves while worrying about deadly rip currents and sharks? More than I could want.

The surf was really strong – too strong for real swimming – on the ocean side. Didn’t run into any rip tides1 or long shore currents, but the waves would knock the kids over easily. They loved it2. The waves on the sound side were much, much, much less. Really, no waves to speak of. Lots of people though, and handy showers to rinse off along with a little gift shop that sells ice cream. We used both the ocean and the sound, and enjoyed both.

When the wind kicked up we got sandblasted. I got used to it quickly, but it gets the sand into even more places. Sand gets everywhere but I got used to that too for the most part. The key was to avoid surfaces where sand is really apparent – like a bare sleeping pad. The fleece slipcover I made did a good job of hiding the sand from me. They say bring a wisk broom, but really several would have been handy. We had one, and it was always somewhere else when needed.

Watch those tides

When we arrived on Sunday we chose a spot around mile 38 in the afternoon and settled in. Because it was very windy it took a while to get the tent up and secured, then the Goddess (see below) and the potty tent.

By that time we had high tide coming in and it was getting surprisingly close to where we were camped. My wife looked up a tides app, and said it was two feet below high tide. Oh poo.

At this point I was pretty beat, tired, and sweaty. I hadn’t set our tent up in a serious wind before and while nothing really went wrong it took a lot longer than expected and only time shows how sturdy a ground anchor is. We were relying on a lot of ground anchors. Doubt was creeping in.

Then the tide shows up and looks like it’s going to wash us away. I was trying to remember when the last ferry of the day was leaving as I double checked the tide.

It turned out the reporting station Susan was reading was from the sound side, not the ocean side. We were only 6 inches away from high tide, which was acceptable. We never did get wet, but it got within a few feet of us. A tidal pool formed next to the truck 😎

Not bad, but not the kind of surprise you need when doing this for the first time!

The new moon was the culprit – it brings a much higher tide than usual.

Bugs

I was sitting down for the first time after setting up camp, with a beer in hand, and I said “Wow Honey, the bugs really aren’t too ba…Son of a <bleep>! Holy <bleep>!” I leapt out of my chair and did an involuntary high speed martial arts montage as I felt a red hot electrified knitting needle jabbed into my tender hide.

I noticed the large green striped fly clinging to me like an ugly hooker in a red light district, continuing to snack on my flesh. Still thrashing around I finally I hit her hard enough to daze her enough to get her under foot for a proper coup de gras.

Apparently I have not been exposed to this type of biting fly before. They’re tough, persistent, and bite like a freaking tiger. Fortunately they hang on so they are easily killed once they start to bite. Also, they don’t handle wind very well, and even a 5-10mph breeze keeps them on the sand. The Thermacell did a good job of keeping them confused, and once I sprayed the Goddess with permethrin they were pretty much out of the picture.

I did get bit a few more times, and strangely it never again hurt like that first time.

No mosquitoes to speak of, or other biting insects.

Protect your feet

Up in the dry sand around camp we got used to going barefoot very quickly, but two of us cut our feet. This is not a good place to get a cut on the beach. All healed well enough, but I was limping sore until I finally relented, cleaned things up, and applied bandages.

The Green Goddess

Before our first trip of the season, to Natural Bridge, Susan insisted I get a screen tent. I had resisted a long time, being a confirmed tarp guy, but I could see our camping days would be over unless I produced so I commenced to researching.

I ended up buying a 35lb behemoth called The Clam. It is very large when packed, but it makes up for that by being heavy as well. About the size and weight of a large area rug rolled up with a body inside.

It also goes up quickly and is sturdy. As soon as Susan saw it she dubbed it the Green Goddess. The Green Goddess turned out to be another trip saving purchase. While even moderate wind will push in the sides or collapse the roof, it stayed up with several guy lines and by adding a central pole, even in 30+mph winds, well past reasonable tarp weather, and provided great shade and shelter from wind and blowing sand. Without it we would have had to live with just a tarp, which would have been nearly a full-time job to keep up with the wind we had, not to mention the noise and lack of wind protection.

Nemo Heliopolis – aka potty tent

Overall, this was a bit disappointing.

The steel frame is strong and has steel cables holding the sections together. It rusted at the joints, and the sections on one pole became glued together.

The tie down points are halfway up on the tent body, and are just simple web loops.

Ventilation is fair. The upside is that there is no fly to worry about, the bad news is that it can get hot inside. The only ventilation is a large screen window with an adjustable cover on the inside. Depending on wind direction you can get great air coming through, or not much.

The floor is basically poly tarp material, not removable.

The toilet paper holder worked pretty well, better than I expected. The mountain money stayed dry despite showers and was easy to get to.

There is nowhere for a kid to put their towel. The elastic pockets up top are convenient for adults, but kids can’t reach them. the work around is to hang them over the straps holding the frame clips.

The privacy zipper feature that allows for the zipper to be locked from the inside had me wondering – if you’re in the middle of nowhere with folks who you can’t trust not to unzip the tent while you’re in it…you’ve got bigger problems than someone unzipping the tent while you’re in it.

The Clam, left, Heliopolis, right. You can see the many guy lines that were keeping everything up.
The Clam, left, Heliopolis, right. You can see the many guy lines that were keeping everything up.

It stayed up in all weathers with three corners out of four guyed out. One pole bent a bit, and one had a few joints glued together via salt/sand/rust. Once it dried out I got it apart, but it was basically welded the day we took it down. The stakes that come with it are the usual joke – a 6” piece of 1/8” soft steel wire with a 100degree bend in one end.

Worth $150? Meh, I wish I had taken a closer look at the cheaper alternatives. The overall construction is long on clever features and short on robustness.

UPDATE: I’ve since bought a new pole set for this which is aluminum, and seems a lot nicer than the steel poles they used to use. Surely it’s a lot lighter, but I haven’t had it out in serious wind to test them.

Helio shower

The Nemo Helio shower worked well. My wife and the kids were very happy to have it. They all have long hair and they washed it easily. It does a good job of maximizing water use while giving a usefully strong spray.

The bad is that it comes in a fiddly bag that is too tight and water proof (why? Why not a sensible mesh bag?) and the pump mechanism isn’t very tolerant of sand. I could tell that the valve that makes the foot pump work was getting sand in it because I could hear it leaking when I pumped. The shower still worked, just not quite as well. I rinsed the sand and all was better. I was far happier with the shower than the shower tent.

Thetford PortaPotti

After bathing the next hurdle I had was providing a toilet – the girls were simply not going to use a hole in the ground. Frankly, I didn’t want to either.

So I got a Thetford PortaPotti 550p as the solution. It worked pretty darn well. Normal toilet height, and everyone was willing to use it. It did, however, develop an odor. Not a good one. Susan was the first to complain, but then it was obvious. I used the deodorant they provided, but still the potty tent smelled like a sewer.

I explained that I had tested the unit at home – indeed using both normal functions, and left it to ferment for a few weeks and no smells were apparent. Could it just be that my personal feces are not odiferous? Susan made it clear that was not the case.

I believe the cause is that the unit does not have a standing pool of water like a normal toilet to keep the unintentional residue of usage, aka skid marks, from being exposed to air. A quick wipe and things improved. When I removed it from the truck this morning it was not very smelly at all.

About the only thing I don’t like about this unit is that there aren’t handles for carrying it. Which means you’re bear-hugging a box full of excrement, which is a heckuva thought.

Pro tip: When emptying, do not – seriously, DO NOT – press the vent button until the unit is elevated or you will end up with a handful of something you definitely do not want a handful of.

Pro tip #2: Have handy wipes within reach.

All jokes aside, if you’re a parent you’ve already dealt with far worse than emptying a portapotti.

Stakes are really important

Normally I use a mix of the standard 10” steel stakes that are basically a large nail with a plastic top, and Snow Peak #30 stakes. Neither have let me down in normal soil, and I figured they’d be ok for sand.

Top to bottom: Snow Peak, generic steel stake, aluminum snow stake with mid-stake tether, aluminum military stake drilled for a tether
Top to bottom: Snow Peak, generic steel stake, aluminum snow stake with mid-stake tether, aluminum military stake drilled for a tether

Fortunately at the last minute I decided to spend some money getting some sand/snow stakes from Amazon, along with some military stakes from Coleman’s Surplus. It would be a trip-saving move.

I really wanted to get the MSR ToughStakes, but they were just too expensive ($45 for a stake?!?). So instead I used the same concept with the much less expensive snow stakes from Amazon, which worked very well.

I routed a cord through the bottom hole, about 3” up from the bottom tip, back through the smaller hole just up from the bottom hole and then into a figure 8 stop knot. A bowline at the other end for a loop. This put the pull well below ground and near the center of the stake. In use the stakes got sucked under and disappeared from the surface. Just the cord would be coming out of the ground. It’s that being pulled down into the firm damp sand that made them work so well.

They kept a 16’ Kelty Noah’s tarp up in a 20mph wind, and kept our tent and shower tent up through higher winds than that. Easy, cheap and effective. I have no doubt the MSR ToughStakes work better, but they’re 10 times the cost or more.

The military stakes are clearly superior to the nails, and probably even the Snow Peaks. Much, much better in sand, and I bet they’re drivable into the usual clay soil/soil gravel mix I run into. I drilled them about 3/5 of the way down from the top to route cord through like the snow stakes, but didn’t end up using them that way.

Reflective cord and more cord

I will never use anything but brightly colored reflective cord for guy lines (or pretty much anything else) again. I will also use the taught line hitch instead of the silly plastic adjusters that came with our tent. Properly taught lines I can see are much better than getting clotheslined by sagging lines I can’t see.

I normally bring four 25’ hanks of reflective cord for the tarp, and another 50’ hank of regular cord for a clothes line (doubled and twisted so clothes can be tucked in the twists) and another two 25’ brightly colored hanks just in case.

This time I brought that plus four more reflective hanks to guy out the shower tent, and another six of tan and dark red cord I had lying around just in case. Plus a total of 24 orange snow stakes, and 24 OD military stakes.

I used all the cord, and all but maybe 6 of the stakes. I used only 8 of the Snow Peak stakes, and none of the nails. Without the new stakes and extra cord, we would have been re-errecting collapsed gear continuously.

Mileage was terrible on sand

We used over 3/4 of a tank of gas driving around, and we didn’t drive all that much. Most of the consumption was on the first day when we drove the island top to bottom to decide where to stay. We got between 5 and 10mpg, with the lower end being far more common.

Never got stuck, or even close. If you’re looking for epic wheelin’ you’ll be left wanting I think. That said, the saltier looking truck campers, the ones that clearly had been out there often, were sporting tow straps and shovels in convenient locations.

I ran BF Goodrich all terrain tires, at about 20psi to increase the contact patch. I’ve since learned that street tires are preferred because the less aggressive tread doesn’t dig so quickly when the tire spins. Apparently there’s no bottom to that sand so you don’t want to go looking for it.

The air hose at the Cape Lookout ferry company is about useless and I gave up on it. I should have just used my compressor during the ferry ride to air back up, but we were in a hurry and I ended up doing just that on the next ferry to Ocracoke.

The ARB Fridge Rocked

Even though they sell ice on the island I couldn’t imagine doing this trip without a fridge.

We ran 4 or 5 gallons of water, at least, through the fridge in Nalgene bottles for drinking. The local water didn’t taste too bad. When it is 90 plus degrees with humidity to match, 35 degree drinking water doesn’t have to be Evian 8-).

Chocolate, even the hard 70% stuff I like, quickly turned to liquid and anything with it had to go into the fridge. Also we accumulated quite a lot of water in the bottom of the fridge just from condensation. The drain took care of that.

Running that much drinking water through the fridge, along with it being exposed to sun more than it should have been, was a bit of a torture test. I brought 100w of solar to power it but we ended up driving somewhere every day so the solar was not the only source of power. 100w of solar wasn’t enough. Maybe 150w would have been, 200w would have. The fridge used over 700wh per day at the beach, and 1.2kwh on the ride home. Inside my rather warm garage at home I was seeing more like 400wh per day, which I’d thought was a good test. Outside another trip to the beach or a desert I doubt I’ll see that kind of power consumption again, but it does give credibility to those here who say 100+ah plus of battery & 200w of solar are needed for a reliable fridge system.

I will be getting a fridge slide. Before the trip I agonized about whether to get solar or a slide. I chose solar. Should have chosen the slide.

UPDATE #1: Since then I’ve learned that the fridge is more accessible with a stool to stand on, and it means moving it in and out less. The stool also gives better access to the rest of the truck, and is much cheaper than a slide.

UPDATE #2 on our western road trip I used a 100AH lithium battery and the fridge was worry free. But that’s another blog post.

Water consumption

We brought 35gal of water but 25 was enough capacity to keep getting water from being a pain. We filled up 30gal while we were there, and left with 25. So we used about 40gal from late Sunday until Thursday morning, with two adults and three kids including bathing. We used seawater to wash dishes, fresh to rinse.

I used Scepter water cans and took two black water cans for bathing/cleaning water, and four civilian blue cans for cooking/drinking along with a Coleman container with a spigot for dispensing and hand washing.

The idea was the black cans would heat the water up in the sun. It worked pretty well – got the water up over 100 degrees.

But what did you do?

Flew kites, played in the surf, swam in the sound, a bit of shelling at the point. Really, not much. That was the point of going, actually. Sunsets were nice, but sunrises were nicer. I could spend all day siting and watching the ocean. My girls can spend all day playing in it.

We also drove through the “village” of houses from folks who had been living there in the 70’s, and it was fun to consider what it would be like to live there while looking at these old buildings.

What I liked best, and figured I would like best, is that there isn’t a whole lot of structure or rules. Yes there are signs about where you can and can’t go, but it’s common sense stuff and I don’t mind giving a turtle nest or bird nest some space. The seclusion was what I was after, and I got it.

I’d read about oppressive rangers, but we only saw one drive by on a quad every morning, and then back every evening. She waved when we waved, but otherwise paid us no mind.

We left the dog at home – thank God! She’d have been miserable in the heat, and it would have been very hard on her paws.

Getting home

We left Cape Lookout on Thursday, and drove to Cedar Island and took the ferry to Ocracoke. We got there, saw the lighthouse, and learned there was a power outage. So we took the ferry to Hatteras to see that lighthouse on our way to the Outer Banks.

We had reservations for a campsite at Oregon Inlet, so the power outage wasn’t a big hassle. It just kept us from having some ice cream on Ocracoke.

Oregon Inlet was more of a typical southern campsite – small. Burrs on the ground all over (site A26, should have chosen better but it was nearly dark when we arrived), but reasonable showers and bathroom. We really only slept there.

Friday we did some shopping, drove north to the beach at Corolla and drove up there a ways to see the horses, and then more shopping. In the evening we met up with a photographer on a beach for family pics, and then Saturday morning we headed home.

Going back

Will I go back to Cape Lookout? Heck yeah. However, as people have suggested, July is a tough time to be there. The wind mostly kept the bugs at bay, but between sweat, wind, and sand, I’d prefer to pick two instead of having all three.

  1. Years later our kids corrected us on this, and share a story where my oldest saved the youngest as she started to be sucked out to sea.
  2. Also, years later, they explained that swimming on the ocean side terrified them. Amazing the stuff you miss as a parent!

Getting away is a skill

For some folks, namely me, getting away is not a natural ability. It takes effort.

I see now that the trip we took recently was way, way overdue. I was basically paralyzed to even plan the trip beyond a rough route and the first few stops. Thankfully my wife took over and organized stuff before we got too far, but clearly I shouldn’t have let myself get to that state before going.

You’d think vacation would be easy to remember to take, but in my case if I miss the window it gets over-though, it becomes overwhelming, it doesn’t happen, and the downward spiral begins.

How do you make sure you get away often enough?

Gazelle T8 tent vs. Badlands thunderstorm

We bought the T8 tent to take on a 2-week road trip out west. We’ve owned a T4 & a Clam which have worked well for us, and wanted something with the same features only bigger. Namely very fast setup, windows off the ground, and enough pockets.

While the tent is nominally the same in terms of features, the design did not scale well and it has not proven to be good value for us.

There was a thunderstorm while we were camped in the badlands and it had its way with this tent.

The storm started with rain, and then the wind picked up rapidly. The rain was no problem, and I wasn’t concerned about the wind at first because plastic tents are loud by nature and tend to make weather sound much worse than it is.

First the hubs started popping back in. I’d staked out the two hubs that were facing the wind because there was a stiff breeze earlier in the day. I know from experience with the Clam and T4 that the hubs will pop back in if the wind gets strong enough. I didn’t stake all of them and as the wind increased it blew in the side hubs, including one that had been staked, and blew down the roof hubs, which required all 5 of us to hold the sides out and the roofs up. This made it difficult to go out and fix the fly that was making a lot of noise and clearly needed attention.

The fly attaches with two short elastic sections, four short poles at the corners, and then there are two elastic cord tie-outs on each of the large side flaps. The fly is the Achilles heel of the tent.

The elastic cord tie-outs on the side flaps are not enough, and I’d planned to replace them with paracord. So once the kids calmed down enough I got out and started replacing the elastics with paracord, but that didn’t help much. There’s just too much flappy fabric, and looking back I’d have been better off rolling them up.

The elastic straps that hold the fly on at the ends broke, in one case the hook broke, and in the other the entire strap was gone. Amazingly, so was the eyelet, which had nothing attached to it. The elastic straps failing, combined with the roof hub collapsing, allowed the wind to get under the fly and soon it was gone and that was game over because now rain was pouring into the tent. We gathered everything that couldn’t be dried out later and bailed to the cars and ultimately a hotel.

The next morning we came back, and this was the result:

Four of the 6 stake tabs detached.

This is not surprising given they’re held on with just a single line of stitching along a hem, instead of being a bit longer and being stitched to the heavy webbing just inside of the hem.

One of the ends where there used to be a short strap to hold the fly on, and an eyelet, both now gone. The hook on the other end of the fly broke.

The four short poles that hold the corners of the fly popped off when the roof collapsed, and once out were whipping around and damaged the tent, we noticed this later at another campground.

One of the metal ferrules on the end of the fly poles also broke, and another came off but we found it later. We could fit the fiberglass pole into the socket without the ferrule but only until the fiberglass pole started to fray at the end during a later setup.

I sewed the stake tabs back on using a Speedy Stitcher, careful to sew into meatier material, and we used paracord to tie the fly at the ends from then on, and used paracord to tie the flaps down. As it happened, the next night was calm and the rest of the sites we camped at on the trip were much more protected and we got much luckier with the weather. Once the fiberglass poles started to fray and couldn’t be put into the socket to hold the fly on, we stopped using the tent altogether.

While the tent does set up very fast, and has lots of room and nice organizational features, I probably would not use it for a trip like this again. It’s just not made strongly enough and the design is too complicated and has too many flaws. In a local or very protected campground it is a convenient choice.

If I had to use this tent again in winds more than about 20mph or so, I would stake out all of the hubs, put poles under the roof hubs, and either roll the side flaps of the fly and stake the center tabs, or stake the flaps straight down somehow. Oh, and reattach the stake tabs to the heavier material that is very close by. At that point it’s going to look like Guliver tied down by the Lilliputians and be as much work & stakes as a Springbar or traditional dome tent with multiple poles, but with less space because of the interior poles holding up the roof. Since those poles will be the key to keeping the fly on, they’re not going to be optional.

We’ve contacted Gazelle about the issues and after supplying a serial number and proof of purchase are waiting to hear back from them.

Update: They responded that they do not consider storm damage to be a warrantable defect, but sent us a replacement rain fly.